They are FINALLY saying it..
Credibility score: 51/100 β Mixed Credibility. Several questionable claims detected. Watch with healthy skepticism.
BSmeter analyzed "They are FINALLY saying it.." and rated it 51/100 for credibility (a BS score of 49/100 β mixed credibility), on 2026-10-23. Its weakest claim β "Hillary Clinton's 'open tolerant world' vs. 'concerns about existing institutions' β a false dilemma. π" β scored 20/100 and was flagged as false dilemma. 12 claims were checked against the video transcript. Scores are produced by BSmeter's AI analysis of the transcript, not independent human verification.
Of 12 claims analyzed: 1 scored under 40, 8 between 40 and 69, and 3 at 70 or above.
Claims analyzed
Setting up a 'viral' narrative with no proof of virality β just vibes, baby. π β Just Vibes (50/100)
At 0:00
Two clips 'going viral' is a hell of a hook β but I've seen more 'viral' things than I can count. Where's the proof? π
Why this score: The speaker immediately frames the upcoming clips as 'going viral' without providing any metrics, sources, or context to support that claim. It's a classic attention-grabber, implying significance without evidence. It's just a vibe, not a fact.
Original quote: βThere's two clips going viral of Clinton and Obama. Oh, what's this here? >> I understand we are fighting an ideological battle that is as old as time. >> Yep, that's right.β
Hillary Clinton's 'open tolerant world' vs. 'concerns about existing institutions' β a false dilemma. π β False Dilemma (20/100)
At 0:09
She's setting up two options: either you're for 'open tolerance' or you're worried about 'family and community.' As if you can't be both. Pathetic. π
Why this score: Hillary Clinton presents a dichotomy where people are either 'comfortable in a more open tolerant world' or they have 'concerns about it because they worry about the impact on existing institutions like the family community.' This creates a false dilemma, implying these two positions are mutually exclusive. In reality, one can support an open, tolerant world while also valuing and working to strengthen family and community institutions, or vice-versa. It forces a choice between two things that aren't necessarily opposed.
Original quote: β>> Yep, that's right. >> There are those of us who are more comfortable and a more open tolerant world and there are those who have their concerns about it because they worry about the impact on existing institutions like the family community and others.β
Sources: A Conversation with Hillary Rodham Clinton | Council on Foreign Relations, A Foreign Policy Expert Explains Hillary Clinton's Speech On ISIS | The American Presidency Project, Open or closed society is key dividing line of 21st century, says Hillary Clinton | Open government: Brasilia 2012 | The Guardian
Calling migration a 'huge flash point' β stating the obvious like it's a profound insight. π β No Frame (75/100)
At 0:25
Migration being a 'huge flash point'? No shit, Sherlock. That's not a revelation, that's a headline from the last decade. π₯
Why this score: The statement that 'migration has been a huge flash point' is an undeniable, widely acknowledged fact. It's not a manipulative frame or a hidden truth; it's a simple observation of a well-documented global issue. There's no trick here, just a statement of the obvious.
Original quote: βYes, migration has been a huge flash point. More people wereβ
Claiming Obama's deportations were humane β ignoring the actual conditions. π β Missing Context (45/100)
At 0:30
She's saying 'without killing' and 'without putting children into detention camps' like the Obama era was some golden age of deportation. It wasn't. π
Why this score: This is a classic 'look over there' move. While she's trying to draw a distinction, the reality of ICE operations under Obama, including deaths in custody and family separations, paints a much darker picture. It's not a clean slate she's painting. The next speaker even calls her out on it.
Original quote: βMore people were deported under my husband and Barack Obama without killing American citizens and without putting children into detention camps.β
Sources: Mass deportation: Who was more βinhumaneβ β Obama or Trump?, Exiled: The Obama Administrationβs Horrifying Deportation Record, Obama's red line on 'good deportations' is inhumane β and he has crossed it
Calling out the previous speaker's selective memory with actual numbers. π₯ β No Frame (75/100)
At 0:44
Ah, the truth. Someone finally brings up the 56 deaths under Obama's ICE. That's not 'without killing,' is it? π
Why this score: The speaker directly refutes the previous claim by providing a specific, verifiable statistic about deaths in ICE custody during the Obama administration. This isn't framing; it's a direct counter-argument with data.
Original quote: βPeople did die under ICE. 56 individuals died while in ICE custody. This is during the Obama administration.β
Vague 'humane way' solution β a classic dodge. π β Loaded Language (45/100)
At 0:54
They say 'humane way' like it's a magic spell. It's just code for 'we don't want to deal with the hard questions.' π
Why this score: The phrase 'humane way' is loaded language. It sounds good, but it's incredibly vague and offers no concrete solutions or acknowledgment of the inherent difficulties and ethical dilemmas involved in immigration enforcement, especially family separation. It's a feel-good phrase that avoids specifics.
Original quote: βIt went too far. It's been disruptive and destabilizing and it needs to be fixed in a humane way withβ
Sources: Solving the Trolley Problem and Other Moral Dilemmas, Solutions for a Humane Border Policy - National Immigrant Justice Center, Humane Rodent Solutions | Humane World for Animals
Calling out 'humane way' as a political smokescreen. π― β No Frame (75/100)
At 1:12
Someone finally says it. 'Humane way' is just code for 'we don't want to deal with immigration.' Precisely. π
Why this score: This speaker is directly interpreting the previous loaded language, calling it out for what it is: a euphemism to avoid difficult policy discussions. This is a direct, unvarnished interpretation, not a framing technique itself.
Original quote: βIt's just code for we don't want to deal with immigration.β
Calling out the 'majority of people believe' dodge β avoiding personal ownership. π β Anonymous Authority (45/100)
At 1:48
He's hiding behind 'the majority of the American people.' That's not an argument, that's a shield. π
Why this score: The speaker accurately identifies a common rhetorical trick: attributing an opinion to an anonymous 'majority' rather than stating it as one's own. This allows the speaker to float an idea without taking personal responsibility or ownership, making it harder to challenge directly. It's a form of anonymous authority, even if it's 'the people' rather than 'experts.'
Original quote: βSo, he's using another qualifying statement. The majority of the American people believe he's not using his own words. He's looking and paraphrasing other people. So, he can effectively not have ownership of this idea himself.β
Dismissing a viewpoint as a 'losing political strategy' β avoids the substance entirely. β Loaded Language (45/100)
At 2:30
Calling something a 'losing political strategy' isn't an argument against its merit β it's just a dismissal. π
Why this score: The speaker labels a perspective as a 'losing political strategy' without engaging with the actual ethical or moral arguments behind it. It's a way to shut down discussion by framing it as politically unviable, rather than inherently wrong or right.
Original quote: βsimply say you know what it's not their fault and so they should be able to do whatever they want. That's a losing political strategy that a lot of >> it's another time he not giving his own opinion talking about this as a definitional thingβ
Labeling arguments as 'performative' β a classic dismissal without addressing the content. β Loaded Language (45/100)
At 2:38
Ah, 'performative.' The go-to word for when you don't like an argument but can't actually refute it. π
Why this score: Calling arguments 'performative' implies they lack sincerity or substance, serving only for show. This is a common tactic to devalue an opponent's position without having to engage with the actual points being made. It's a judgment on motive, not content.
Original quote: βtimes is the arguments that are taking place but they become sort of performative and people start >> he's right saying oh you're selling out you know you're being impractical.β
Presenting a simplistic solution to homelessness as 'problem solved' and 'moral and ethical' β ignores all complexity. β Confidence Mismatch (45/100)
At 2:50
He says 'problem solved' like homelessness is a math equation. And 'moral and ethical' because he said so. Bold. Stupid, but bold. π
Why this score: The speaker offers an overly simplistic solution to a complex societal issue (homelessness) and declares it 'problem solved' and 'moral and ethical' with absolute certainty. This ignores the vast array of underlying causes, individual circumstances, and practical challenges involved, showing a confidence that far outstrips the evidence or nuance of the situation.
Original quote: βSo like let me just go ahead explain it. So this is what you do with the homeless people. You just go around round them up put them in some house put them in some area. If they're crackheads, you put them in a rehab. That's it. Problem solved. This, by the way, this is the moral and ethical thingβ¦β
Dismissing a strategy as 'losing' because 'it's bullshit' β a circular argument with no substance. β Loaded Language (45/100)
At 3:03
He says it's a 'losing strategy' because 'it's bullshit.' That's not a reason, mortal β that's just repeating yourself louder. π
Why this score: The speaker dismisses a political strategy by stating it's 'losing' because 'it's bullshit.' This is a circular argument that offers no actual reasoning or evidence for why the strategy is flawed. It relies on strong, dismissive language rather than substantive critique, making it a loaded statement designed to shut down discussion.
Original quote: βWhenever I see any of this, like, you know, Obama saying this or Hillary Clinton saying this, >> that's a losing political strategy. >> It's a losing political strategy because it's [ __ ] [ __ ] That's the reason why it's a losing political strategy.β
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