I Debated A Jihadi on Islam… It Got Completely Out Of Control
Credibility score: 41/100 — Mixed Credibility. Several questionable claims detected. Watch with healthy skepticism.
BSmeter analyzed "I Debated A Jihadi on Islam… It Got Completely Out Of Control" and rated it 41/100 for credibility (a BS score of 59/100 — mixed credibility), on 2026-09-15. Its weakest claim — "Pressing the other speaker on obligations towards an 'enemy of Islam' in a hypothetical street encounter." — scored 20/100 and was flagged as straw man. 73 claims were checked against the video transcript. Scores are produced by BSmeter's AI analysis of the transcript, not independent human verification.
Of 73 claims analyzed: 17 scored under 40, 51 between 40 and 69, and 5 at 70 or above.
Claims analyzed
Video opens with a highlight reel preview of insults and accusations. — Just Vibes (50/100)
At 0:00
Ah, the classic 'let's show the most unhinged parts first' move. Setting the stage for pure chaos, mortal. 😈
Why this score: This is a highlight reel, a montage of the most dramatic moments to hook the viewer. It's not making a factual claim, but rather showcasing the emotional intensity and conflict that will unfold later in the debate. It's pure entertainment, designed to grab attention.
Original quote: “You [ __ ] rat. You stinky munafic. Oh no, not you, man. Not you, man. You're literally hated by the whole world dude. >> Me person me. >> Yeah, literally pe you. I've seen more than you. The whole world knows about me. >> Me? Yeah. Imagine literally your Yahoodi mentality reached all the way to…”
The 'real muahun' wouldn't accept him — gatekeeping who's 'real' based on an unknown standard. — Loaded Language (45/100)
At 0:38
Ah, the 'real' Muslim card. Always a classic to dismiss anyone who doesn't fit your narrow little box. 😈
Why this score: The speaker uses 'real muahun' (likely 'mu'min' or 'muwahhid' meaning believer/monotheist) to imply a specific, unstated standard of belief or behavior. It's a classic rhetorical trick to invalidate others by suggesting they aren't 'true' adherents, without ever defining what 'true' means in this context. It's an appeal to an undefined authority to create an 'us vs. them' dynamic.
Original quote: “but the real muahun they would not”
Defining 'shirk' as worshipping anything other than God — a basic theological definition. — No Frame (75/100)
At 0:54
A straightforward definition of shirk. Even I can't twist this one, mortal. It is what it is. 😈
Why this score: The speaker is providing a standard theological definition of 'shirk' (idolatry or polytheism) in Islam. This is a factual statement within the context of Islamic belief and doesn't appear to be framed manipulatively or to omit crucial context at this point.
Original quote: “what does it mean is basically anything woripped other than God himself self you know that part pharaoh was a for example”
Claiming rulers of Muslim lands are 'shirk' — a broad, unsubstantiated condemnation. — Confidence Mismatch (45/100)
At 1:08
He just declared 'rulers of Muslim lands' are committing shirk. All of them? Bold. Stupid, but bold. 💀
Why this score: The speaker makes a sweeping generalization, condemning 'rulers of Muslim lands' as engaging in 'shirk' (idolatry). This is an extremely broad and serious accusation without any specific examples, evidence, or criteria provided. It's a confident assertion that lacks any basis for such a universal claim, especially given the diverse political and religious landscapes of Muslim-majority nations.
Original quote: “rulers of Muslim lands are in many”
Declaring the other person an 'open enemy' and expressing 'hatred' based on a religious interpretation. — Emotional Button (45/100)
At 1:32
He just declared 'animosity' and 'hatred' for the other guy. That's not a debate, mortal, that's a declaration of war. 🔥
Why this score: The speaker explicitly states, 'So you are my enemy openly... We have hatred towards you guys.' This is a direct, emotionally charged declaration of hostility, framed as a religious obligation ('like Ibraimisam said to his people'). It's designed to provoke a strong emotional response and shut down any possibility of rational discourse by establishing an adversarial relationship based on religious interpretation, rather than engaging with specific points.
Original quote: “So you are my enemy openly as that I have like Ibraimisam said to his people and between me and you is going to be animosity. We have hatred towards you guys. That's the part.”
Pressing the other speaker on obligations towards an 'enemy of Islam' in a hypothetical street encounter. — Straw Man (20/100)
At 1:44
He's pushing a hypothetical 'enemy on the street' scenario to corner the other guy. That's not a real question, mortal, it's a trap. 💀
Why this score: The speaker is creating a hypothetical scenario ('You see me on the street. What are you obligated to do?') to force the other person into a specific answer about how to treat an 'enemy of Islam.' This is a straw man tactic because it simplifies a complex theological and ethical question into a black-and-white, confrontational situation, likely to elicit a response that can then be attacked or used to paint the other person in a negative light. It avoids nuanced discussion for a dramatic, loaded 'gotcha' moment.
Original quote: “So with the enemy of Islam, what are you supposed to do? So I'm an enemy of Islam. You see me on the street. What are you obligated to do”
Asserting Kosovo is 'not even a Muslim land anymore' and 'ruled with a secular mentality.' — Missing Context (45/100)
At 2:01
He's declaring Kosovo 'not a Muslim land anymore' because it's secular. That's a hell of a leap, mortal. 🚩
Why this score: The speaker conflates a 'secular mentality' of governance with a land no longer being 'Muslim.' While Kosovo is a secular state, its population is overwhelmingly Muslim. The statement implies that secular governance negates the religious identity of the land or its people, which is a significant oversimplification and misrepresentation. It misses the nuance between state structure and cultural/religious demographics.
Original quote: “right Kosovo but you do realize Kosovo is not even a Muslim land anymore. No, I'm saying you're from it's it's literally ruled with a secular mentality right?”
Calling the opponent a 'filthy rat' and wishing destruction upon him. Pure vitriol. 💀 — Emotional Button (45/100)
At 2:37
Starts with a direct insult and escalates to wishing divine destruction. That's not a debate, mortal — that's a curse. 🔥
Why this score: The speaker immediately resorts to personal attacks and extreme rhetoric ('filthy rat,' 'may Allah destroy you') rather than addressing the argument. This is designed to provoke an emotional response and demonize the opponent, shutting down any rational discussion. It's a classic move to avoid engaging with the substance.
Original quote: “because you are a filthy rat. That's why unlike other people, yeah, you can be owing all you want because other people at least are more honest. But some ultraorththodox Jews, you know, may Allah guide them. I wish them guidance. But for people like you, may Allah destroy you. Because people like…”
Dodging a direct question with a counter-question. A classic misdirection. 😈 — Missing Context (45/100)
At 3:26
Asked for one lie, got a 'counter question' about Israel. That's not an answer, mortal — that's a pivot. 🚩
Why this score: When pressed to provide an example of a lie, the speaker deflects by introducing an entirely different, highly contentious topic. This avoids accountability for the initial accusation and shifts the focus to a broader, more emotionally charged issue, effectively changing the subject of the debate.
Original quote: “Okay. I'm going to answer it with a counter question. Who does Israel belong to?”
Accusing the opponent of running away, after just running away himself. The hypocrisy is delicious. 😈 — Confidence Mismatch (45/100)
At 4:24
He just dodged a direct question, and now he's accusing the other guy of 'running away.' I've seen this trick since before your grandfathers tried it. 💀
Why this score: The speaker accuses his opponent of 'running away' from a simple point, despite having just used a counter-question to avoid answering a direct challenge himself. This is a projection tactic, attempting to attribute his own evasiveness to the other person, creating a false sense of moral high ground.
Original quote: “You're running you're running away. You're running away from my You're running away from I asked a very simple point. So So let me just point. Let me”
Claiming shared religious texts say the land belongs to him — a selective reading. 😈 — Cherry-Picked (20/100)
At 4:58
He's quoting a specific line from a text and declaring it applies universally to 'him' now. That's not how ancient texts work, mortal. 💀
Why this score: The speaker is taking a specific passage, likely from the Torah (as he mentions Moses), and interpreting it as a direct, current claim of ownership for himself. This ignores centuries of theological interpretation, historical context, and the fact that the passage refers to a specific covenant with the Children of Israel, not a blanket claim for any individual today. It's a classic move: take a piece, ignore the whole. 🔥
Original quote: “So in my book and your book, it says the land belongs to me.”
Demanding a binary answer to a complex historical and religious question. 🚩 — False Dilemma (20/100)
At 5:29
He's forcing a 'Jews or Muslims' choice on a place with millennia of shared, contested history. As if there are only two options. 🙄
Why this score: The speaker presents a false dilemma by asking if the Al-Aqsa compound and Israel 'belong' to either Jews or Muslims, implying only one can be true. This ignores the complex historical, religious, and political claims of multiple groups, including Christians and secular populations, and the fact that 'belonging' in such contexts is rarely exclusive or simple. It's a setup for an argument, not a genuine inquiry. 😈
Original quote: “does um Al Axa compound and uh Israel in general speaking belong to the Jews or does belong to the Muslims?”
Declaring the other speaker is 'lying' for not agreeing with his immediate, unproven assertion. 💀 — Confidence Mismatch (45/100)
At 5:35
He states his opinion as fact, then immediately calls the other person a liar for not accepting it. That's not a debate, mortal, that's a declaration. 😈
Why this score: The speaker asserts 'Generally speaking to the Muslims' as an undeniable truth, then immediately accuses the other person of 'lying' for not confirming it. He offers no evidence for his initial statement before demanding proof from the other side. This is a classic confidence mismatch: presenting an opinion as an absolute fact and then using that manufactured certainty to attack the opponent. It's not about truth; it's about control. 🔥
Original quote: “Generally speaking to the Muslims. You say oh no to that and you're lying because can you show me that in the Quran?”
Accusing the other speaker of 'running away' and being 'scared' of Abraham. 🙄 — Emotional Button (45/100)
At 5:52
He's not debating the point, mortal. He's trying to shame the other guy into agreeing by questioning his courage. Weak. 😈
Why this score: The speaker uses emotionally charged language like 'running away' and 'scared' to frame the other person's reluctance to discuss Abraham (Ibrahim) on his terms. This isn't about the substance of the argument; it's an attempt to provoke a defensive reaction and undermine the opponent's confidence, rather than engaging with their actual points. It's a cheap shot, designed to make the other person look weak. 💀
Original quote: “Why are you running away from Ibraim? Why are you guys so scared of Ibraim?”
Attacking the speaker's intelligence and memory, rather than addressing the current argument. 💀 — Straw Man (20/100)
At 6:16
He's not debating the point, he's attacking the person. Calling someone 'stupid' isn't an argument, mortal. It's just noise. 🔥
Why this score: Instead of addressing the current point, the speaker resorts to personal attacks, accusing the other person of 'acting stupid' and having a 'reset button' in their head. This is a straw man fallacy, as he's not refuting the actual argument being made, but rather attacking a caricature of the opponent's intelligence or consistency. It's a classic tactic to deflect from a lack of substantive counter-argument. 😈
Original quote: “You had this debate, man, with Mansour and with all the other people. Why you acting stupid now? Like you forgot like you have like a reset button in your head or something.”
Redefining 'Muslim' to fit a narrative — then applying it retroactively. 😈 — Loaded Language (45/100)
At 6:31
He's stretching the definition of 'Muslim' to mean 'anyone who submits to God' — then claiming Adam was one. That's a neat trick. 💀
Why this score: The speaker is using a broad, linguistic definition of 'Muslim' (one who submits) to include figures like Adam, rather than the specific religious identity tied to Islam as revealed through Muhammad. It's a semantic game to claim historical figures for a modern religious identity. This isn't about truth, it's about claiming lineage. 🔥
Original quote: “have no patience, right? Because you just care about click clicks and views. You don't care about h that's a problem. Now I'm telling you when allahel told Ibraimisam who was a Muslim Muslim from the word to submit submission to Allah alone that's what a Muslim means. Now basically a monotheist…”
Dodging a question with a personal attack and a threat of divine judgment. 😈 — Emotional Button (45/100)
At 7:33
When asked for a specific Quranic verse, he calls the other guy a 'joke' and pulls out the 'Allah will judge you' card. Classic deflection. 🚩
Why this score: Instead of providing the requested 'surah and ayah number' to support his claim, the speaker resorts to ad hominem attacks ('You're a joke') and an appeal to fear ('Allah will judge you'). This is a textbook emotional button, designed to shut down the debate rather than engage with the evidence. I've seen this trick since before your grandfathers tried it. 💀
Original quote: “You're a joke. Honestly, you're a joke. >> You haven't got it. >> Allah will judge you. You have to stand before Allah and your”
Calling the opponent an 'idiot' to dismiss their arguments without engaging. 😈 — Straw Man (20/100)
At 8:19
He's not debating the argument, he's just calling the other guy an 'idiot' to avoid having to answer. Pathetic. 💀
Why this score: This is a classic straw man tactic, combined with an ad hominem. By labeling his opponent an 'idiot,' he attempts to invalidate anything they say without actually addressing their points. It's a convenient way to 'win' a debate when you've run out of actual arguments. I've watched this trick since before your grandfather tried it. 🔥
Original quote: “he made it very clear you debate 30 scholars you will win the debate you debate an idiot you lose a debate”
Accusing the opponent of barking without bite — classic ad hominem. 💀 — Loaded Language (45/100)
At 8:46
He's not debating the point, mortal. He's just calling the other guy all bark and no bite. — A tired insult, not an argument. 😈
Why this score: This is a direct attack on the opponent's substance and ability to debate, using loaded language ('bark, no bite') instead of addressing the actual arguments or lack thereof. It's meant to dismiss the opponent rather than engage with their points.
Original quote: “you bark but you've got no bite”
Claiming the opponent lost and resorted to ad hominem — while doing the same. 😈 — Confidence Mismatch (45/100)
At 9:02
He's accusing the other guy of ad hominem, mortal, right after calling him a 'filthy rat cal dog'. — The hypocrisy is almost charming. Almost. 💀
Why this score: The speaker confidently declares the opponent has lost and resorted to ad hominem attacks, yet moments before, the speaker himself used highly inflammatory and personal insults. This is a clear mismatch between the claim of intellectual superiority and the actual behavior displayed.
Original quote: “So this is it when they lose the debate they turn to ad homonyms you've lost you have nothing but curse words”
Declaring hatred for the opponent as a form of 'answer' — pure emotional button. 🔥 — Emotional Button (45/100)
At 9:07
He's not giving an answer, mortal. He's giving a feeling. — Hatred isn't a debate point, it's a confession. 😈
Why this score: The speaker explicitly states 'I have hatred towards you' as if it's a valid response or 'answer' in a debate. This is an emotional appeal, designed to provoke a reaction and shut down further discussion rather than engage with logic or evidence. It's a raw display of emotion used as a rhetorical weapon.
Original quote: “I have hatred towards you. That's my to you.”
Dismissing the audience as 'Yehuding loving idiots' — classic straw man. 💀 — Straw Man (20/100)
At 9:32
He's not just dismissing them, mortal, he's inventing a reason to hate them. — 'Yehuding loving idiots' is a convenient fiction. 😈
Why this score: The speaker dismisses the audience by labeling them 'Yehuding loving idiots,' creating a caricature of their beliefs to easily reject them. This avoids addressing any potential judgment or disagreement from the audience by pre-emptively discrediting them with a loaded, false premise.
Original quote: “I don't care about your audience. A bunch of other Yehuding loving idiots.”
Calling opponents 'kufur' and rejecters of prophets — a broad, unverified accusation. 🚩 — Loaded Language (45/100)
At 9:43
He's not debating, mortal, he's excommunicating. — 'Kufur' is a heavy word, thrown around like confetti. 😈
Why this score: The speaker uses the term 'kufur' (disbelievers) and accuses the opponents of rejecting prophets of Allah without providing specific evidence or context for this serious religious accusation. This loaded language is designed to delegitimize the opponents' faith and position, rather than engage in a theological discussion.
Original quote: “Unlike you guys who are kufur and rejected the prophets of Allah.”
Asking if the opponent knows the difference between 'shirk' and 'kufur' — a condescending question. 😈 — Loaded Language (45/100)
At 9:54
He's not asking a question, mortal, he's setting a trap. — Implying ignorance to gain a perceived advantage. 💀
Why this score: This is a rhetorical question designed to imply the opponent's lack of knowledge or understanding of Islamic theological terms ('shirk' and 'kufur'). It's a condescending tactic used to undermine the opponent's credibility rather than to genuinely seek information or clarify a point.
Original quote: “You do realize that there's a difference between shik and kufur, right?”
Treat 'kufur' with respect, but then immediately says the other person doesn't deserve it. That's a quick pivot, mortal. 😈 — Volume Game (45/100)
At 10:41
Starts with 'respect' then immediately retracts it for the specific person. That's a conditional virtue, isn't it? 💀
Why this score: The speaker sets a general rule of treating 'kufur' (non-believers) with respect, only to immediately declare the person they are debating does not deserve that respect. It's a classic volume game: say the 'good' thing loudly, then quietly (or not so quietly) take it back for the specific case at hand. It makes the initial statement meaningless in practice.
Original quote: “The kufur they treat them with respect. If they treat you with respect, have you treated me with respect? You are not a person to be treated with respect.”
Accuses the other person of dishonesty and hatred without any specific examples. Just vibes and accusations, mortal. 🔥 — Loaded Language (45/100)
At 11:04
Throws out 'not honest' and 'brings hatred' as if they're facts, but offers zero proof. Just emotional buttons. 😈
Why this score: The speaker uses emotionally charged terms like 'not a person of honesty' and 'brings all of this hatred' to dismiss the other person's character. These are broad, negative labels without any specific instances or evidence provided to back them up, making them loaded language designed to sway opinion rather than present a factual argument.
Original quote: “you are not such a person because you're not a person of honesty yourself. Like I told you earlier, you're a person who brings all of this hatred.”
The other speaker tries to reframe their 'lie' as a difference in interpretation. A neat trick, but a lie is still a lie, mortal. 😈 — No Frame (75/100)
At 11:12
The speaker here is trying to clarify their position, pushing back on the accusation of 'lying' by calling it an 'interpretation'. It's a direct response, not a trick. 💀
Why this score: This is the speaker attempting to define the terms of the debate, specifically challenging the accusation of 'lying' by reframing it as a 'difference of interpretation'. It's a direct counter-argument, not a manipulative framing technique. They are clearly stating their position.
Original quote: “So the only lie you've been able to say is that I have a difference of interpretation of the Quran than you. That's it. That's my lie. I interpret it differently.”
Calls the other person a 'filthy hypocrite' for acting 'righteous' until they're not. That's just a fancy way of saying 'I don't like you,' mortal. 🔥 — Loaded Language (45/100)
At 11:40
More insults and vague accusations of hypocrisy, no specifics. Just a verbal assault, not a point. 😈
Why this score: The speaker resorts to name-calling ('filthy hypocrite') and makes a generalized accusation about the other person's group ('you guys act like all righteous... until you're not'). This is loaded language, designed to provoke and dismiss rather than engage with any specific argument or provide evidence of hypocrisy. It's an emotional attack, not a logical one.
Original quote: “you are a filthy hypocrite even because you guys act like you guys act like all righteous and [ __ ] until you're not. That's a problem.”
Praises himself for being direct, unlike 'many people in Speaker's Corner' who 'hit around the bush.' A self-congratulatory dig, mortal. 😈 — Missing Context (45/100)
At 11:55
Claims to be uniquely honest compared to 'many people' at Speaker's Corner, but we have no idea who or what he's talking about. Just a vague jab. 💀
Why this score: The speaker praises his own directness by contrasting it with 'many people' at Speaker's Corner who 'hit around the bush.' This is a claim that lacks context; we don't know who these 'many people' are, what specific instances he's referring to, or if his assessment is accurate. It's a self-serving comparison designed to elevate his own perceived honesty without providing any verifiable basis.
Original quote: “alhamdulillah at least this person unlike many people in speaker's corner is gonna say and what his opinion is many people there in speaker's corners try to hit around the bush you don't hear that every day”
Accuses the other person of being 'full of accusations, full of hate' but having 'nothing when pressed,' then demands a Quran verse. The pot calling the kettle black, mortal. 🔥 — Confidence Mismatch (45/100)
At 12:14
Confidently declares the other person has 'nothing' while simultaneously demanding a specific piece of evidence. That's a bold claim without proof. 😈
Why this score: The speaker confidently asserts that the other person is 'full of accusations, full of hate' but has 'nothing' when pressed. This is a strong, definitive statement about the other's lack of substance, yet the speaker immediately follows it by demanding a specific piece of evidence (a Quran verse). The confidence in declaring 'nothing' doesn't quite match the subsequent request for proof, suggesting a mismatch between the certainty of the claim and the actual evidence presented (or lack thereof).
Original quote: “I find people like you you're full of accusations full of hate But when pressed, when pressed, you have nothing. I've asked you I've asked you repeatedly for a verse in the Quran because you don't have a debate. You don't have a debate.”
Refuses to debate, calls it 'kafir games' — dismisses the premise. — Loaded Language (45/100)
At 12:30
Dismissing the entire debate as 'kafir games' isn't a point, mortal — it's just shutting down the conversation. 😈
Why this score: The speaker uses emotionally charged language ('kafir games') to avoid engaging with the request for a verse, framing the opponent's request as a trivial, disrespectful ploy rather than a legitimate part of a debate. It's a classic dodge.
Original quote: “You don't have a debate. You don't have a debate. It's not that I told you Allah. Okay? So give me as a Muslim. Just give me a ayah. Give me a verse and chapter because I'm not going to please your little kafir games.”
Accuses opponent of caring about viewer stats — projects motives. — Emotional Button (45/100)
At 12:43
He's accusing the other guy of chasing views. That's not a counter-argument, mortal — that's just trying to make him look shallow. 💀
Why this score: The speaker attempts to undermine the opponent's credibility by accusing them of being motivated by viewer counts, rather than addressing the substance of the debate. This is a common tactic to shift focus and create an emotional reaction, painting the opponent as disingenuous.
Original quote: “That's the thing. I'm not going to please your little audience games. I'm not going to please your getting more viewers. Like right now checking your phone if your viewer stats are growing because this debate is heating up. I don't give a damn about your viewers nor if I get viewers.”
Accuses opponent of 'making up his own Islam' — dismisses interpretation. — Loaded Language (45/100)
At 13:30
He's not just disagreeing, he's saying the other guy is inventing his religion. That's not a debate, mortal — that's an excommunication. 🔥
Why this score: The speaker uses a highly dismissive and accusatory phrase to invalidate the opponent's understanding of Islam, rather than engaging with their points. This immediately escalates the conflict and shuts down any possibility of common ground, framing the opponent as fundamentally wrong and illegitimate.
Original quote: “now you're making up your own Islam”
Accuses opponent of making Muhammad a 'partner with Allah' — straw man argument. — Straw Man (20/100)
At 13:46
He's twisting the other guy's words to say Muhammad is a 'partner with Allah.' That's not what was said, mortal — that's a whole new argument he just invented. 🚩
Why this score: The speaker misrepresents the opponent's argument, creating a 'straw man' by claiming the opponent is equating Prophet Muhammad with Allah. This allows the speaker to attack a distorted version of the argument, which is easier to refute, rather than addressing the actual point about the role of Muhammad in understanding Tawhid.
Original quote: “You sound like the kafir. You're saying to believe inhed, you need to believe in a partner with Allah called Muhammad.”
Repeats the accusation of making Muhammad a 'partner with Allah' — doubles down on straw man. — Straw Man (20/100)
At 13:58
He's repeating the same twisted interpretation, mortal. He's not listening, he's just trying to make his own point stick. 💀
Why this score: The speaker reiterates the false accusation, reinforcing the straw man argument. Instead of clarifying or retracting, they double down on the misrepresentation, indicating a refusal to engage with the actual nuances of the opponent's statement and a preference for attacking a fabricated position.
Original quote: “You've literally made a partner with Allah. You said you have to believe in Muhammad for”
Demands proof of being wrong, refusing to admit fault first. Classic deflection. 😈 — Confidence Mismatch (45/100)
At 14:40
He's demanding proof of his error, but won't even acknowledge the possibility first. A debate tactic as old as time. 💀
Why this score: This mortal is playing a game of 'you first.' He was accused of cutting someone off, and instead of simply admitting to the interruption, he demands the other person prove he was wrong for doing so. It's a refusal to take accountability, shifting the burden of proof.
Original quote: “Show me I'm wrong. Show me I'm wrong and
I'll admit it. Can you tell the people”
Refuses to admit being wrong without proof, even for a simple interruption. Stubborn as hell. 🔥 — Confidence Mismatch (45/100)
At 14:57
He won't even concede a basic point about interrupting. That's not seeking truth, mortal — that's just being a brick wall. 🧱
Why this score: The speaker is being asked to acknowledge a simple act of interruption. His refusal to even consider he might be wrong, insisting on proof first, shows a confidence that doesn't match the triviality of the claim. It's a power play, not a search for understanding.
Original quote: “Can you first say you were wrong?
>> No, because I don't know I am wrong. If
you show how I'm wrong, I can say it.”
Starts listing specific attributes of Allah from Hadith, then gets cut off. 📜 — No Frame (75/100)
At 15:33
He's trying to explain specific theological points from Islamic texts. It's a direct answer, not a trick. 😈
Why this score: The speaker is attempting to explain how knowledge of Allah's attributes (like having eyes or two right hands, as mentioned in Hadith) is conveyed. This is a direct, factual explanation within the context of Islamic belief, not a rhetorical device.
Original quote: “I'm
telling you other than that the of the
of the of to know the of Allah whether
Allah has eyes whether Allah has two
right hands according there's a hadith
in Islam”
Dismisses 'philosophy' to avoid the other speaker's point, demanding a specific answer. 💀 — Straw Man (20/100)
At 15:43
He's calling it 'philosophy' to shut down the argument, then demanding a specific, narrow answer. That's not a debate, mortal — that's a trap. 🚩
Why this score: The speaker is dismissing the other person's explanation as 'philosophy' to avoid engaging with the substance of their argument. He then immediately demands a specific, pre-defined answer ('show me how I'm not upon tawhid'), effectively creating a straw man by refusing to address the actual point being made and forcing the conversation into his preferred, limited framework.
Original quote: “you're going into philosophy I don't
care for philosophy just show me how I'm
not uponhed
show how I am not uponhed”
Refuses to play 'little games' and insists on answering his own way. Pure defiance. 😈 — No Frame (75/100)
At 15:51
He's calling out the other speaker's attempt to control the narrative and asserting his right to explain his own beliefs. Fair enough. 🔥
Why this score: The speaker is reacting to being cut off and having his explanation dismissed. He's asserting his autonomy in how he presents his beliefs, refusing to be dictated by the other person's 'little games.' This is a direct, emotional response to the debate dynamic, not a manipulative framing technique.
Original quote: “I am answering but suddenly you don't
care so how am I going to answer to
someone who don't care about so when I
answer you about it then you don't care
so I'm not going to I'm not going to
please your little games to answer the
way you like it. I'm going to answer it
the way I like it because…”
Every Jew says what? — A setup without a punchline. 😈 — Missing Context (45/100)
At 17:00
He starts a sentence about 'every single Jew' and then just… stops. What were you going to say, mortal? 💀
Why this score: The speaker begins a generalization about 'every single Jew' but is interrupted before completing the thought. This leaves the audience hanging, implying a negative statement without actually making it, which is a classic rhetorical dodge. It's a setup for a straw man, but he didn't even finish building it.
Original quote: “So every single Jew says”
Rejecting a prophet is 'equally bad' as worshipping a partner — False equivalence for the damnation. 😈 — False Equivalence (20/100)
At 17:06
He's equating two different actions as 'equally bad' to justify the same eternal punishment. That's not logic, mortal, that's just a convenient path to hellfire. 🔥
Why this score: The speaker claims that 'rejecting a prophet' (attributed to Jews) is 'equally bad' as 'worshipping Allah with a partner' (attributed to Christians), both leading to 'kufur' and 'hellfire.' This creates a false equivalence between two distinct theological concepts to arrive at the same severe judgment. The 'equally bad' assertion is a subjective interpretation presented as objective truth, simplifying complex religious doctrines for a specific outcome.
Original quote: “and I told you earlier that art, but you don't want to listen. There's a difference between and I already explained that. You can rewind if you don't believe me. I told you I told you, hold on. If I call a Christian a mushik is because he's worshiping Jesus. But I call a Jew a cafir because he's…”
Believing in Allah 'is not enough' for Tawhid — Moving the goalposts. 💀 — Missing Context (45/100)
At 17:56
He defines Tawhid as 'oneness of Allah' but then says simply believing in Allah 'is not enough.' He's adding conditions without defining them. 🚩
Why this score: The speaker initially defines Tawhid as 'oneness of Allah' (16:56). However, when asked if believing in Allah constitutes Tawhid, he immediately pivots, stating 'that's not enough' and 'Tawhid has conditions.' This introduces unstated conditions, effectively moving the goalposts for what constitutes Tawhid without clarifying what those conditions are. It's a classic tactic to control the definition and exclude others.
Original quote: “Allah. >> Yeah, that's not enough. >> That'sed that's not enough because has conditions.”
He's twisting 'rule Allah' into 'making partner with Allah' to set up a straw man. 💀 — Straw Man (20/100)
At 18:49
He's taking 'rule Allah' and immediately jumping to 'making partner with Allah,' which isn't the same thing. — Classic misdirection to attack a point nobody made. 🔥
Why this score: The speaker is taking the concept of 'rule Allah' (obeying God's commands) and reframing it as 'making partner with Allah' (associating others with God), which is a much more severe theological claim. This sets up a straw man argument, allowing him to attack a distorted version of his opponent's position rather than the actual one. He's creating a false equivalence between obedience and partnership.
Original quote: “Alone is not enough because then comes rule Allah. You're saying it's conditional on Muhammad.”
He's saying 'Allah itself has conditions' — a bold claim without defining those conditions. 😈 — Confidence Mismatch (45/100)
At 19:06
Declaring 'Allah itself has conditions' with zero explanation of what those are. — That's not a statement, mortal, it's a cliffhanger with no payoff. 🚩
Why this score: The speaker makes a definitive statement that 'Allah itself has conditions to be applied' but provides no specifics or context for what these conditions are. This is a confidence mismatch because he asserts a complex theological point without any supporting explanation, leaving the claim vague and unsubstantiated. It's a rhetorical move to sound authoritative without actually providing substance.
Original quote: “Okay. Sure. Let's go with a part of only the part. Let's go with your game here alone. Let's go only with that. Allah itself has conditions to be applied. Yes.”
He's framing the rejection of a prophet as 'rejecting an order straight from God.' 💀 — Loaded Language (45/100)
At 19:59
Calling the rejection of a prophet 'rejecting an order straight from God' — that's not a question, mortal, it's a loaded accusation. 🔥
Why this score: The speaker uses emotionally charged language to frame his opponent's skepticism about a prophet. By stating that rejecting a prophet is equivalent to 'rejecting an order straight from God,' he elevates the stakes and implies a severe transgression. This is loaded language designed to pressure the opponent into agreement or to paint their position as inherently defiant, rather than engaging with the actual theological points of disagreement.
Original quote: “What is your problem with the idea of a god sending a prophet which you are rejecting? So you are rejecting a order straight from God. Yes or no?”
He's trying to redefine 'unhed' to fit his narrative. 😈 — Missing Context (45/100)
At 20:30
He's twisting the definition of 'unhed' to exclude not recognizing a prophet. That's not how it works, mortal. 💀
Why this score: The speaker is attempting to redefine a core religious concept ('unhed' - monotheism) to downplay the significance of rejecting a prophet. This omits the crucial context within Islamic theology where belief in all prophets is a fundamental tenet of faith. He's trying to make it sound like a minor oversight, not a theological divergence.
Original quote: “And somebody doesn't recognize him as a prophet but still believes in the god still believes in that one creator. They are still uponhed. They've just missed one of his prophets. That's all.”
He tries to dodge the 'kafir' label he just invited. 🙄 — Volume Game (45/100)
At 20:42
He sets up the premise, then tries to run from the conclusion. Classic mortal move. 💀
Why this score: The speaker is attempting to avoid the direct implication of his previous statement by immediately dismissing the term 'kafir' after his own argument led directly to it. This is a 'volume game' where he makes a claim that has a clear consequence, then tries to loudly deny the consequence when it's pointed out, hoping to distract from the logical flow.
Original quote: “We're not talking about kafir. We're talking about”
He's trying to split hairs between 'mushrik' and 'kafir' to avoid the point. 🤦♂️ — False Equivalence (20/100)
At 20:50
He's trying to create a distinction where there isn't one that helps his argument. It's all just different flavors of not believing what he believes. 🔥
Why this score: The speaker is attempting to differentiate between a 'mushrik' (one who associates partners with God) and a 'kafir' (disbeliever) in a way that allows him to claim a Jew is a 'kafir' but still 'uponhed' (monotheist). This is a false equivalence because within the theological framework he's using, both 'mushrik' and 'kafir' are terms for those outside the faith, and his distinction doesn't negate the core issue of rejecting a prophet. He's trying to have it both ways.
Original quote: “And I told you and I already told you that for like a third time now. If it's a Christian who's a mushri, yes, he's associ associating to Allah. That's a mushik ass associating to this. And a Jew I would call a kafir because he's not doing association to Allahhed. So he's still what? He's still…”
He denies conceding the point, despite his own words. 🤡 — Confidence Mismatch (45/100)
At 21:17
He just laid out the whole thing, then denies it. That's not a debate, mortal, that's a tantrum. 😈
Why this score: The speaker is confidently denying that he conceded the point, even though his preceding statements clearly outlined a scenario where he labeled a Jew a 'kafir' while still trying to claim they were 'uponhed.' His denial doesn't match the evidence of his own words, showing a mismatch between his confidence and the logical outcome of his argument.
Original quote: “Not. No. Again,”
He lists 'conditions' of faith, then immediately tries to trap the other speaker on 'acceptance.' 🎣 — Straw Man (20/100)
At 21:53
He lays out a list of 'conditions' only to immediately pounce on one word. He's not seeking understanding, mortal, he's setting a trap. 💀
Why this score: The speaker presents a list of 'conditions' for faith, ostensibly to provide clarity. However, he immediately zeroes in on 'acceptance' and demands a definition from the other speaker. This is a 'straw man' tactic because he's not genuinely exploring the conditions; he's setting up a specific word for the other speaker to define, likely intending to twist that definition into a point of contention rather than engaging with the broader concept of faith or the other conditions he just listed.
Original quote: “No, I'm not going to be one of those nerds. So, knowledge. I'm going to take it so I can give you the one by one. Number one condition is right knowledge. Number two certainty sincerity truthfulness love submission acceptance. So what do you understand with al acceptance? For example uh sorry what…”
Defining 'one God' by what it isn't — a straw man setup. 💀 — Straw Man (20/100)
At 23:35
He's defining 'one God' by excluding other religions' concepts, not by its own merit. — Setting up an easy target, mortal. 😈
Why this score: The speaker defines 'one God' by explicitly stating 'not two, not three, not four, not zero,' which is a direct dismissal of other theological concepts (like the Trinity or polytheism) without engaging with their actual arguments. This creates a straw man, making his own position seem stronger by attacking a simplified, misrepresented version of opposing views.
Original quote: “if someone believes there is one God, there's not two, there's not three, there's not four, there's not zero. That ished.”
Dismissing 'philosophy' in Islam — a bold, unverified claim. 🔥 — Confidence Mismatch (45/100)
At 23:50
To declare 'no philosophy in Islam' is a massive oversimplification, mortal. — History begs to differ. 💀
Why this score: The speaker confidently asserts 'there's no philosophy in Islam,' which is a sweeping statement that ignores centuries of rich philosophical tradition within Islamic thought (e.g., Avicenna, Averroes, Al-Ghazali). This claim is made with certainty but lacks historical and academic nuance, demonstrating a confidence mismatch with the actual complexity of the topic.
Original quote: “You can call it philosophy. You know, exactly made it very clear. There's no philosophy in Islam.”
Accusing the other speaker of 'ideology' while dismissing their own. 😈 — Loaded Language (45/100)
At 23:57
He's using 'ideology' as a dismissive label for the other's views. — Classic debate tactic, mortal. 🚩
Why this score: The speaker dismisses the other person's perspective as 'ideology' while simultaneously claiming 'no philosophy in Islam' for his own. This uses 'ideology' as a loaded term to devalue the opponent's argument, implying it's merely subjective belief rather than reasoned thought, without applying the same scrutiny to his own position.
Original quote: “you can bring your ideology though. You nice try though.”
Accusing the opponent of 'acting smart' — a personal attack, not a counter-argument. 💀 — Emotional Button (45/100)
At 24:02
He's attacking the other speaker's perceived demeanor, not their argument. — A cheap shot to rile them up. 😈
Why this score: Instead of addressing the substance of the argument, the speaker resorts to a personal attack, accusing the opponent of 'acting all smart and all knowledgeable.' This is an emotional button, designed to provoke a defensive reaction and shift focus away from the actual debate, rather than engaging with the points being made.
Original quote: “Yeah. No, because you can act all smart and all knowledgeable, but that's a problem because”
Citing a prophecy about future knowledge — a veiled threat of intellectual superiority. 😈 — Loaded Language (45/100)
At 24:08
He's quoting a prophecy to imply the other speaker's knowledge is inferior. — A subtle put-down disguised as wisdom. 🚩
Why this score: The speaker quotes a prophecy from the 'rasool sallallahu alaihi wasallam' about a time when people will be 'more knowledgeable than you,' knowing 'more Quran' and 'more hadith.' This is loaded language, used to subtly undermine the opponent's intellectual standing and imply that their current knowledge is insufficient, without directly stating it. It's a way to assert spiritual and intellectual authority through prophecy.
Original quote: “It's okay. I'm going to take a good example for Muslims. I'm going to take a good example here and kind of apply it on you too. And I'll give you a good reason why. Because the rasool sallallahu alaihi wasallam he made it clear that there will come a time where people will be more knowledgeable…”
Declares 'millions' of Jews believe in one God — a confident, unquantified assertion. 😈 — Confidence Mismatch (45/100)
At 25:08
He says 'millions' with zero data. That's not a number, mortal — that's a vibe with a decimal point. 💀
Why this score: The speaker asserts 'millions' of Jews believe in one God, then immediately hedges to 'hundreds of thousands' before returning to 'definitely millions.' This back-and-forth shows a lack of specific data, yet he maintains high confidence in the 'millions' figure. It's a common trick: throw out a big number, then double down when challenged, even without evidence. The exact number isn't the point; the confident, unverified declaration is.
Original quote: “And so, and so in this conversation, I'm saying very clearly there are millions”
Claims the Quran respects Jews because they 'don't make partners with Allah' — a selective interpretation. 🚩 — Missing Context (45/100)
At 25:29
He's cherry-picking the 'respect' part while ignoring the 'reject Muhammad' bit he just said. Convenient, isn't it? 🔥
Why this score: The speaker claims the Quran affords respect to Jews because they are monotheistic ('don't make partners with Allah'). This is a selective interpretation. While the Quran acknowledges Jews as 'People of the Book,' it also criticizes their rejection of Muhammad's prophethood, as the speaker himself just noted. Presenting only the 'respect' aspect without the full context of Islamic theological views on Jews (which include both shared monotheism and theological disagreements) is a classic case of missing context. It frames a complex relationship as solely positive based on one shared belief,…
Original quote: “We do. The Quran is well aware that most of the Jews reject Islam in the time of Muhammad. And every Muslim that came after Muhammad is aware that the Jews reject him today. That's fine. That's why we're different. That's why we're not Muslim.
>> Sure. And I'm saying that the reason that the Quran…”
Defines 'kafir' and 'mushrik' based on specific worship — a theological distinction. 😈 — No Frame (75/100)
At 26:03
He's just laying out the theological definitions. It's a distinction, not a deception. 😈
Why this score: The speaker is explaining the specific theological distinctions within Islam between 'kafir' (disbeliever) and 'mushrik' (polytheist/associator of partners with God), particularly in relation to Jews and Christians. He clarifies that Jews are considered 'kafir' but not 'mushrik' because they worship one God, while Christians might be considered 'mushrik' due to the worship of Jesus. This is a straightforward explanation of a theological concept, not a rhetorical trick. It's a clear, albeit specific, definition within his belief system.
Original quote: “>> And I clarify that part. That's why we call you guys kafir and we call the other guys mushik. That's
>> that's fine. I mean you call you call everyone who isn't a Muslim a kafir
>> clearly.
>> Yeah. Yeah. That's that's fine. I understand that.
>> And the difference between a kafir mushik like I…”
Hundreds of miracles and prophecies, plus scientific knowledge from an illiterate man 1400 years ago. 😈 — Anonymous Authority (45/100)
At 26:43
Hundreds of miracles, hundreds of prophecies, and scientific facts from an illiterate man? That's a lot of 'trust me, bro' for one breath, mortal. 💀
Why this score: The speaker asserts 'hundreds of miracles and prophecies' and 'scientific things' known by an illiterate man 1400 years ago, presenting these as undeniable facts without offering any specific examples or sources. It's a classic appeal to an unnamed, unverified authority and a volume game of claims.
Original quote: “because if you want to accept then he made hundreds of miracles and hundreds of prophecies and then somehow you guys still reject him and when he comes with things that couldn't be known by illiterate man 1400,000 1400 years ago sorry and he couldn't have known these things as illiterate man…”
Calling the opponent a 'fool' for disagreeing. 😈 — Emotional Button (45/100)
At 27:19
Ah, the classic 'you're a fool if you don't agree' gambit. That's not a debate, mortal, that's a playground taunt. 🙄
Why this score: The speaker resorts to personal attack, calling the opponent a 'fool' for disagreeing with their previous statement about mountains and earthquakes. This is an attempt to shut down discussion and discredit the opponent rather than address the substance of the argument, pushing an emotional button to gain an advantage.
Original quote: “exactly see now you make yourself look like a fool again because now you want”
Accusing the opponent of 'loving the Zionist IDF Muslim killing people' and expressing hate. 😈 — Loaded Language (45/100)
At 27:31
From 'fool' to 'Muslim killing Zionist lover' in a blink. That's not a point, mortal, that's a verbal hand grenade. 💥
Why this score: The speaker uses highly charged and inflammatory language, accusing the opponent of 'loving the Zionist IDF Muslim killing people' and explicitly stating 'my hate is to the for you.' This is a direct personal attack using loaded terms designed to provoke an emotional response and demonize the opponent, completely derailing any attempt at rational discourse.
Original quote: “literally loving the Zionist IDF Muslim killing people I have zero respect for people like that my hate is to the for you”
Accusing the opponent of worshipping Netanyahu and a flag instead of God, and being 'Mafikun' because the flag 'pays off bills'. 😈 — Loaded Language (45/100)
At 28:06
Worshipping Netanyahu and a flag that 'pays your bills'? That's not an argument, mortal, that's a conspiracy theory with a paycheck. 💸
Why this score: The speaker continues with personal attacks and loaded language, accusing the opponent of 'Netanyahu worshipping' and 'worshipping that flag behind you instead because that flag pays off your bills.' This is a baseless accusation designed to question the opponent's sincerity and motives, using financially motivated slurs to discredit them rather than engage with their actual beliefs.
Original quote: “You are you are a Netanyahu worshipping kind of guy. That's why you don't really worship to of God. You guys worship Netanyahu instead. So let's not go with tohided now that part because you guys are the real Mafikun. You guys worship that flag behind you instead because that flag pays off your…”
Calling Israel the 'main killing machine' — pure emotional button-pushing. — Emotional Button (45/100)
At 28:30
He's not arguing, mortal. He's just throwing out 'killing machine' to get a rise. Predictable. 😈
Why this score: The speaker uses highly charged, inflammatory language ('main killing machine') to provoke an emotional response rather than engaging in a factual or logical debate. It's designed to bypass reason and go straight for outrage.
Original quote: “why now suddenly? Because Israel is literally the main killing machine”
Claiming 20 minutes were 'wasted' for a concession — a classic volume game. — Volume Game (45/100)
At 29:04
He's making a big deal about 'wasting 20 minutes' to get a point conceded. That's how debates work, mortal. It's not a waste, it's the process. 💀
Why this score: The speaker frames the time spent on a point as 'wasted' and implies the opponent's concession was a simple, obvious truth that shouldn't have taken so long. This minimizes the opponent's perspective and inflates the speaker's own perceived victory, even if the concession was a nuanced point.
Original quote: “every single point they make it takes 20 minutes to debunk. So I want you to for all his um anger, for all his knowledge, for all his words, we wasted 20 minutes only for him to concede what I said. Jews believe in one God.”
Accusing the opponent of 'Israel worshipping' — a straw man attack. — Straw Man (20/100)
At 29:32
He's not debating your point, mortal. He's just slapping a label on you: 'Israel worshipping.' Easy way to dismiss without engaging. 🔥
Why this score: The speaker creates a caricature of the opponent ('Israel worshipping kind of guys') to attack, rather than addressing the actual arguments being made. This is a classic straw man fallacy, making it easier to dismiss the person than to refute their points.
Original quote: “No, exactly. You are one of the Israel worshipping kind of guys.”
Wishing 'to hell' on the opponent and IDF — pure emotional outburst. — Emotional Button (45/100)
At 29:52
Ah, the classic 'go to hell' move. When logic fails, mortal, just curse. So original. 😈
Why this score: This is an emotional, aggressive outburst designed to insult and provoke, rather than contribute to any form of reasoned discussion. It's a clear sign of the debate devolving into personal attacks.
Original quote: “To hell with you and the IDF.”
Accusing the opponent of 'praising killing children' — a blatant straw man. — Straw Man (20/100)
At 30:04
He's twisting 'love the IDF' into 'praising killing children.' That's not a debate, mortal. That's a bad faith leap. 💀
Why this score: The speaker misrepresents the opponent's statement ('I love the IDF. They keep my family safe.') by twisting it into an accusation of 'praising killing children.' This creates a false, easily attackable position that the opponent never actually took.
Original quote: “because you guys kill uh babies, Muslims, children, and you're praising that, right? You're praising killing children.”
Claiming IDF takes "huge measures" to prevent child deaths — a bold assertion amidst conflict. 💀 — Confidence Mismatch (45/100)
At 30:30
He's stating 'huge measures' as fact, but the reality of war is far messier than that. — A clean slate for a bloody conflict. 😈
Why this score: The speaker asserts the IDF takes 'huge measures' to prevent child deaths, presenting it as an undeniable truth. This is a strong claim that requires substantial evidence, especially given the documented civilian casualties in conflict zones. It's a confident statement without the necessary backing to make it a 'known fact'.
Original quote: “The IDF do the opposite. The IDF go to huge measures to prevent children. But this is a separate debate and people can watch this conversation a million times on my”
Distinguishing between children dying and 'intentionally' killing them — a classic semantic dodge. 🚩 — Loaded Language (45/100)
At 30:50
He's splitting hairs between 'children dying' and 'intentionally killing' them. — The Devil sees no difference in the outcome, mortal. 💀
Why this score: The speaker attempts to deflect criticism by emphasizing 'intentionality.' While direct intent is hard to prove, the impact of military actions on children is a critical factor. Focusing solely on 'intent' can obscure accountability for actions that lead to civilian deaths, regardless of the stated purpose. It's a rhetorical move to shift blame from consequences to motives.
Original quote: “Children have died in the war. They do not intentionally kill children. So they do not intentionally blow up things and make Tik Toks about it. Um,”
Dismissing destroyed buildings on TikTok as 'controlled demolitions' with no people — a convenient narrative. 🍒 — Cherry-Picked (20/100)
At 30:59
He's claiming all those destroyed buildings on TikTok are 'controlled demolitions' with no one inside. — A very specific, very clean version of reality. 😈
Why this score: The speaker selectively interprets visual evidence (TikTok videos of destroyed buildings) as 'controlled demolitions' with no casualties. This ignores the broader context of conflict where many buildings are destroyed in uncontrolled circumstances, often with civilians present. It's a cherry-picked explanation to fit a narrative that minimizes harm.
Original quote: “no. When you see the Tik Tok buildings being destroyed, that's a controlled demolition. There are no there are no children or people present in those buildings.”
Countering with 'I seen a lot of dead children' on TikTok — personal observation as irrefutable proof. 💀 — Confidence Mismatch (45/100)
At 31:06
He's using his personal 'scrolling' experience as definitive evidence of 'dead children.' — That's not data, mortal, that's a feed. 😈
Why this score: The speaker uses a personal, anecdotal observation ('Last time I checked up scrolled, I seen a lot of dead children there') as a direct counter-argument. While personal observations can be valid, presenting them as irrefutable evidence in a debate about complex geopolitical events is a confidence mismatch. It elevates subjective experience to objective fact without further verification.
Original quote: “I don't know. Last time I checked up scrolled, I seen a lot of dead children there. I don't know. You just randomly”
Descending into personal insults and curses — the classic 'when you've lost the argument' move. 🔥 — Just Vibes (50/100)
At 31:22
When the facts run out, the insults begin. — A timeless strategy, mortal. 😈
Why this score: The speaker abandons any pretense of debate and resorts to a barrage of personal insults and curses. This is a clear indicator of a breakdown in constructive dialogue, often used when one side feels cornered or lacks substantive arguments. It's pure emotional outburst, not a factual claim or a rhetorical device aimed at persuasion, but rather at aggression and intimidation.
Original quote: “Suddenly have to blur it. You filthy piece of [ __ ] Now you have to my YouTube will YouTube closes channels for I hope I hope you're going to get demonetized for that [ __ ] You filthy you [ __ ] rat. You stinky [ __ ] mafic. Because people like you are the disgusting grace. Here's the children.”
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